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The technicalities of heaven's legal system are such that they can only chain up Satan for one thousand years and then have to let him go to have another attempt at deceiving the world before apparently being defeated one final time.

Also, if your name isn't on the list then it's into the lake of fire with you. Sounds like the most extreme celeb party ever.

I do wonder why anyone would want to worship this God who uses humans as pawns in his celestial feud with Satan, condemning any who are deceived by Satan and only letting those into heaven who were already destined to go. Seems that if there was even a slim chance of his existence then I'd choose not to worship him.

Once all this stuff has happened there will be no more death, pain or crying, at least for the special chosen ones. All the people who didn't get chosen, or sinned will have all the suffering. But if you cowardly pick the mindless worship in fear of the lake of fire, I don't think that helps you because one of the detestable people who'll be going there are cowards.

A shiny new Jerusalem will appear, all shaped and measured according to various factors of 12, and decorated with expensive gems, with fruit trees in season all the time.

There will be no more night, God's light will shine down on them forever. How do you get any sleep?

More circular logic, this is all true because the angel within the story said it was all true. He also said that the time of this prophecy coming true was near, so truth is probably relative.

I think that's it, that's the end. I'm thinking about writing some sort of final conclusion post soon, but for now, that's all folks, thanks for following me through this long year!
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An angel explains a vision of a sexually immoral woman sitting on a beast in the water, sort of. I think she's supposed to be Babylon, and she will be destroyed because of her immorality. But as the rest of the world already got destroyed it's no surprise that Babylon would go too.

All the throngs in heaven are happy about the whole thing and praise God for his sound judgements.

Jesus will finally get married once the world is all destroyed. And then ride out of heaven on a horse and kill the beast and his false prophet by throwing them into the lake of burning sulphur and killing the rest with the sword in his mouth.

Last day tomorrow!
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The dragon known as Satan gives a seven headed leopard-bear-lion-beast the power to rule the earth and everyone worships it, everyone that lives on earth because their name wasn't in Jesus' book of life since the beginning. This beast gives the power to another beast who does lots of deceiving and convincing people to worship it.

This final beast makes all people get a mark of the beast on their right hand or forehead if they want to buy or sell things. I think I'd ask for my right hand to be marked if a preference is allowed. The beast's number is 666 and it is this number or his name (not specified) that should form the mark.

The saved people don't have any choice between right hand or forehead, they all have Jesus and God's names written on their foreheads. These are 144,000 virgin men who sing and follow Jesus all over the place.

Getting the beast's mark makes God angry with you and he'll torture you with fire and sulphur in front of him and his angels, now I'm seeing God as Jabba the Hutt enjoying the suffering of his prisoners.

Seven angels enact the final seven plagues and torture the humans remaining on earth a bit more. Unsurprisingly, the people being tortured with sores and sunburn are blaming God for their troubles and are not really in the mood to give him any glory.

All the kings of earth are brought together in a place called Armageddon for a final battle but first, the final plague is a huge earthquake that flattens all the cities and mountains followed by really big hail. And yet everyone continued blaspheming God, shocking.
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Locusts with the power of scorpions. Locusts that attack people. Locusts that follow instructions and can tell time. Locusts that torture by stinging like a scorpion. Seriously, what? Also, I wonder if maybe it would have been better to hire scorpions?

OK this sounds like a typical crazy dream moment, you know when in a dream you're suddenly somewhere else or the person you were talking to is suddenly a tortoise? Well, the locusts just became horses. Hey author of Revelation, noone is particularly interested when you start a sentence with 'I had this crazy dream...'

Some other horses, not the scorpion-locust-horses, have tails made of snakes. God goes to a lot of effort designing these freaky creatures just to destroy the world and torture and kill the people in it. Surely an omnipotent being could just will it out of existence in a moment? Especially as all this death and destruction is having no effect on the whether the remaining people believe in this particular God or worship him correctly.

Fire breathing prophets with power over the rain and who die when they are done, and then wake up after three and a half days, freaking everyone out (the fire breathing was apparently less disturbing than the rising from the dead). And following that with an earthquake that kills 7000 is finally enough to convert a bunch of terrified people.

That must be embarrassing, God's ark of covenant is showing!

A dragon sweeps a third of the stars out of the sky with its tail and then tries to eat a new baby as its born because its going to rule over all the nations. God looks after the mother and child (separately). Oh ok, that makes more sense(!), the dragon is Satan. He fights with his angels against Michael and his angels (Supernatural plot point, check! Well, minus the dragon...) and ends up cast down to the earth and starts terrorising people, again still not as evil as God.

It sounds awful to not love your life so much that you were afraid to die. I don't think it's worth being afraid to die but looking forward to it because life isn't too great seems morbid.
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The throne room in Heaven sounds like a pretty trippy place, involving a large circle of thrones and thunder and lightning shooting out - this is starting to sound like something a young child would come up with during drawing time, especially with the random animals hanging about that look like actual animals apart from the six wings and eyes all over.

Jesus is the only one worthy to open the seven seals on a particular scroll, this makes the grovvelling masses in heaven fervently worship.

The first four seals release the four horsemen of the apocalypse - recent seasons of Supernatural have involved some of this end of the world stuff so it's very familiar - behind the fifth seal are the souls of people who've been violently killed for being Christians, apparently there weren't enough of them yet so they have to wait for vengeance. Breaking the sixth seal releases God's wrath on the world, 144,000 Jews are protected from the damage that the angels are given permission to perform.

The seventh seal just involves more damage and death on the earth, different disasters heralded by angels trumpeting before destroying a third of something like turning a third of the sea to blood and killing sea creatures.
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I already think the author of Revelation must have been taking something, not only do voices speak to him, but he saw a fiery eyed, white haired man (Jesus?) amongst seven golden lamp-stands, carrying seven stars in his hand and a sword in his mouth.

The seven lamp-stands represent seven churches that Jesus has some specific instructions and pronouncements for, these are to mostly warn them about various satanic forces that are surrounding them.

Jesus also promises to return 'soon'. All I can be certain of is that starting Revelation means my time reading the bible ends soon!

2 John-Jude

Feb. 1st, 2011 09:58 pm
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More warnings about deceivers and antichrists in these three very short books. Also various rumblings about churches that aren't following the teachings properly and not responding to letters written to inform them what they are doing wrong, I'd probably ignore letters like that too.

1 John

Jan. 31st, 2011 09:49 pm
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Ok, so if you confess your sins Jesus forgives you. It doesn't say who you should confess them to, and surely if Jesus is all we've been told then he already knows you sinned, so why does he want to know exactly what you did again?

Hating your fellow Christian means you're still in the dark, I guess it's OK to hate the non-Christians though? Answered my own question there, loving the world or things in it means you don't have God's love, I don't understand why God hates the world he apparently made.

John says that it was the last hour right then, due to all the antichrists hanging around the place, now I'm picturing John as one of those crazy street preachers with signs that say 'The End is Nigh'.

So in the OT, those of us who say there is no God were fools, in the NT denying Jesus makes us liars and antichrists. Yay for 'them and us' mentalities.

John is of the 'ignorance is bliss' school of thought, being anointed into Christianity is enough, there's no need to learn anything after that.

2 Peter

Jan. 30th, 2011 07:18 pm
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Oh hey circular logic, all the prophecies in scripture are direct from God, none are from the prophet's own imagination. How do we know this is true? Because the scriptures say so!

False teachers will try to infiltrate the church and corrupt it, they will be punished on the day of judgement along with angels who sinned and have been locked up in chains in hell.

Unrighteous people will just go back to sinning even if they find Jesus, they are just too enslaved by immorality to leave it.

Good one, claiming that in the last days people will scoff at the fact that Jesus hasn't returned, and will deliberately suppress the fact of the flood, and then a quote someone already left me in a comment when I mentioned how long it's taking, the excuse seems to be that time means nothing to God and he's just waiting patiently for everyone to have a chance to repent.

This is the sort of thing that is abhorrent to me about end times religions, the people conducting their lives in holiness and godliness are not merely waiting for the end times but actually hastening its arrival. The heavens and earth will dissolve and shiny new ones will be made. Why can't we just be happy with the world we have and work on making that a good place to live rather than wishing for its destruction? And anyway, if this promised end did come what happens to the non-human animals and all the plants residing on this planet that these believers are so looking forward to being destroyed?

1 Peter

Jan. 29th, 2011 03:55 pm
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The phrase 'it is reserved in heaven for you' made me think of email and phone scams where it is claimed there are large amounts of money or nice prizes waiting just for you. In fact I just recently came across a quote by Gloria Steinem which is related: "It’s an incredible con job when you think about it, to believe something now in exchange for something after death. Even corporations with their reward systems don’t try to make it posthumous."

It was known that Jesus would come since before the world was formed, and he appeared when he did for the benefit of those living in the 'last times'.

The instructions to submit to various authorities (government, master, husband etc.) highlight the possibilities of using the religion to control people - though of course all the stuff about being happy to endure suffering has its role to play as well.

Christians are not to be ashamed of being Christians and should rejoice in suffering for Jesus.

Leaders of the religion are to care for the believers not as a duty but willingly and not for shameful profit. I'm certain that not a single preacher ever lead their flock for profit.

James

Jan. 28th, 2011 11:35 pm
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If you have any doubts when you ask God for more wisdom you won't receive anything because you are not fully attentive to God.

You shouldn't be tempted by God, because desire leads to sin. But doesn't converting to a religion that promises an eternal reward mean you must have been tempted by God, or at least by the message being spread in his name.

James defines pure and undefiled Christianity as caring for orphans and widows and keeping yourself unstained by the world. So, become a monk or nun then?

James' example of law breaking went a bit far, he says that breaking a single law makes you guilty of breaking all of them. So his example is that if you do not commit adultery but do commit murder then you have violated the law, yes sounds like a violation of the law of pretty much every human society.

I think we were being told a few days ago that faith is most important, but James says that it's no good claiming to have faith if you don't physically help those in need. Sounds fair enough to me.

The tongue is the most powerful and dangerous part of the human body.

You shouldn't speak against fellow believers because that is speaking against the law. I guess it depends what you mean by speak against, if they were breaking some of those laws shouldn't you tell someone?

You shouldn't make plans without adding 'if God is willing' because it is arrogant to think you know what will happen. I must agree that 'you are a puff of smoke that appears for a short time and then vanishes'.

The Lord's return was near according to James, the believers just had to be patient for a bit.

Praying will make sick people well & bringing a sinner back to the truth saves the soul of the person doing the bringing.
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Here we have a definition of faith, it's being sure of what we hope for and convinced of what we do not see. So, because you hope to live for ever then you are certain that there is an afterlife, being particularly convinced because there is no evidence to support any sort of living after death. Is that right? Actually reading on there are some examples of the faith of various OT characters, who are all exalted for doing things because God told them it would work out OK, even though many of them didn't receive their promised reward.

Apparently Moses was suffering abuse for Christ, bit before his time there.

Any Christians not suffering for their faith are not being disciplined as a son would be by a loving but strict father so are not legitimate. No wonder modern western Christians like to claim they are being oppressed despite often representing the majority/established religion. If they don't make sure they are suffering in some way then God doesn't love them enough.

Ah well, it ends with some reminders to be nice to each other, you can't ever disagree with those parts.
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Thanks to a couple of people who commented on yesterday's post for pointing out that Hebrews was written to the Jewish people. I was sort of coming to that conclusion when they were listing OT characters and stating how much better Jesus is than them, more of that today.

So, basically a whole book of the bible is dedicated to 'my religion is better than yours' (or my covenant is more faultless than yours) directed at the Jews. From the outside this all seems a bit petty.

A bit of 'the sacrifice in my religion is superior to the ones in yours' (Jesus' blood versus the blood of goats and sheep).

Also, the punishment for rejecting the OT laws was merely death, having contempt for Jesus and insulting the Holy Spirit will lead to a terrifying ordeal at the hands of a vengeful God.
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Oh dear, the poor angels aren't as important to God as Jesus is, and they have to worship him, I hope that didn't cause any tension in heaven.

Apparently it is the devil who holds the power of death and Jesus has destroyed him through his death, so why are we still worried about the devil?

Now Jesus is better than Moses.

God can see everything, no creature is hidden from him. Big Brother much?

The people this has been written for are apparently having difficulty understanding all there is to say, which is apparently hard to explain.

You can only swear an oath by something greater than yourself, so God swore his oath to Abraham on himself because there's nothing greater. Is your own honour greater than you, because that's all you can swear an oath on in the end.
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It sounds like Titus has his work cut out with the people of Crete, they are known as liars, evil beast and lazy gluttons, and apparently this ugly stereotype is true. So he's got to teach them with authority and by being a good example.

Philemon is being sent back a slave called Onesimus who ran to Paul and converted. Paul says to treat him as a brother now he's converted.

2 Timothy

Jan. 23rd, 2011 05:31 pm
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Paul is reminding Timothy that he should face his share of suffering as a soldier of Jesus and not fear it. He doesn't want Timothy to go the way of some of his other followers who have started to spread a bad version of the original message, and undermining people's faith.

Christians are not to engage in heated disputes and should correct opponents with gentleness while hoping that God will grant them repentance and they'll come to their senses. To be fair, most Christians who've commented here have followed this I think, just a minority who don't.

The people that should be avoided in the last days are the ones that commit the usual range of sins while maintaining an outward appearance of true religion, I think everyone knows people like that...

Paul says that every scripture is inspired by God, and their study will lead to wisdom for salvation and righteousness.

Paul talks about a few people who've abandoned him and done him harm, and asks that when Timothy comes to see him could he bring the cloak Paul left with someone and some scrolls as well, not sure why lines like that are kept in the bible but the banality of it amused me.

1 Timothy

Jan. 22nd, 2011 06:59 pm
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God had mercy on Paul back when he was persecuting Christians because he was ignorant in his unbelief, so I guess those of us who know what we're not believing are screwed then?

Paul has handed some cities over to Satan to teach them not to blaspheme after they rejected Paul's message, did they know they'd been handed over to Satan?

God wants everybody to be saved, and it is Paul's purpose (he's not lying about this) to preach and teach.

OK, back to the misogyny Paul? Women can learn, but quietly and submissively, and there's to be no women allowed to teach or be in authority over a man. All because of that silly Adam and Eve story...

The qualifications for those who wish to hold leadership positions in the church involves basically being a good guy, not a new recent convert though because those people are apparently more susceptible to becoming arrogant and falling into the devil's trap. Candidates should also be the husband of one wife, so no polygamists or single guys need apply (and it goes without saying that no gay men and definitely no women will be considered).

Paul says that we all agree that his religion contains amazing revelation, I think his list is padded though.

In the later times some will desert the faith (only some?) and then will prohibit marriage (not sure why anyone would do that, there's more focus on making marriage laws more equal actually) and require abstinence from foods (I always thought the Atkins Diet was a sign of the end times).

Well that's quite a nice bit, you should treat older men as fathers, younger men as brothers, older women as mothers and younger women as sisters. However, while a widow in need should be honoured, and her children and grandchildren should fulfil their duty to the household, if she dares to live for pleasure and not set all her hopes on God then she is dead while she lives.

There is a list of widows who have pledged to remain widows and serve God, no younger widows are allowed because they may get the desire to marry again. Paul wants younger women to marry, raise children and manage a household (apparently this will keep Satan away or something).

Paul recommends drinking a little wine for digestion and illnesses, strangely I think he's probably right as a little wine can be beneficial.

As I don't agree with Jesus' sound words and the godly teachings I am conceited and understand nothing, and apparently with an unhealthy interest in controversies and verbal disputes, I guess you've got me down to a tee there Paul.

You shouldn't suppose that godliness is a way of making a profit (no preacher or church ever got rich?), the longing for money is in fact the root of all evil and can cause people to stray from the faith.
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It is obviously thought to have been a comfort to the Thessalonians to tell them that the people who don't follow the gospel or know God will be eternally punished, and that any persecution they themselves are undergoing for their beliefs is making them worthy for God's calling. Whatever helps them sleep at night I guess...

The day of the Lord will not arrive until a rebellion comes and a man is revealed who exalts himself over every other object of worship, the Thessalonians are not to be shaken by anyone claiming that this day has arrived yet. Apparently the hidden power of lawlessness that is supposed to lead to this man being revealed was already at work back then, I guess it's very slow moving?
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The Thessalonians had such a reaction to being taught the gospel that its influence has spread without the leaders having to do any more preaching in some areas. Religion goes viral!

Paul treated the Thessalonians like children when he taught them God's message.

Paul has many nasty things to say about the Jews.

Paul had to leave Thessalonica and Satan wouldn't let him come back. I guess this makes them feel special because Paul was willing to try battling Satan to get back to them.

Paul has sent Timothy to make sure they don't get shaken or tempted from their new faith, as they are apparently suffering for it and Satan is probably trying to tempt them away from it.

Rejecting Paul's instructions for behaving like a good Christian is not rejecting human authority but rather rejecting God himself.

Looking forward to God coming and raising the dead Christians and then taking up the living ones is supposed to be an encouragement to the new Christians.

Colossians

Jan. 19th, 2011 09:30 pm
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I've realised that Paul's letters are always written to people who have already converted to his religion, reminding them of what he's told them along with answers to things he's been asked (though we don't see their side of the correspondence). Now, obviously these people were convinced of the truth of his preaching when they met him and the other preachers, but that's not the part that the assemblers of the bible decided to show. So, my thinking is that this has not been put together to convince a non-believer but to reassure the already converted. Also, it gets pretty repetitive. I'll try to find something new in this book.

Paul believes that the gospel has been preached in "all creation under heaven" seems unlikely at that time.

Paul doesn't want the newly converted to be deceived through arguments that sound reasonable, the footnote adds that this doesn't mean he's against serious thinking but just the uncritical adoption of a philosophy at odds with a Christian one, I do wonder how critical these new converts were when they converted to Paul's religion though.

Interesting, apparently these converts are to not allow anyone to judge them with respect to the food or drink or feasts they have or Sabbath days. So there should be no judgement on anyone not observing the Sabbath? So, why are we subject to Sunday trading laws in the UK and have Christians moaning that people don't keep Sunday sacred any more?

Ah, that's why certain actors and sportsmen thank God when they win awards and contests, they are to do all their words and deeds in the name of Jesus and give thanks to God.

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