1 John

Jan. 31st, 2011 09:49 pm
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Ok, so if you confess your sins Jesus forgives you. It doesn't say who you should confess them to, and surely if Jesus is all we've been told then he already knows you sinned, so why does he want to know exactly what you did again?

Hating your fellow Christian means you're still in the dark, I guess it's OK to hate the non-Christians though? Answered my own question there, loving the world or things in it means you don't have God's love, I don't understand why God hates the world he apparently made.

John says that it was the last hour right then, due to all the antichrists hanging around the place, now I'm picturing John as one of those crazy street preachers with signs that say 'The End is Nigh'.

So in the OT, those of us who say there is no God were fools, in the NT denying Jesus makes us liars and antichrists. Yay for 'them and us' mentalities.

John is of the 'ignorance is bliss' school of thought, being anointed into Christianity is enough, there's no need to learn anything after that.

Date: 2011-02-01 01:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] liedownlovely.livejournal.com
I saw this today and thought of you - and how well it ties in with ignorance is bliss!

curefaith.com

Date: 2011-02-01 02:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Why I confess my sin if Jesus already knows: Communication with God and relationship. He knows, but taking the time to admit (big step..we tend to blame others), describe my feelings of remorse and ask His guidance, I grow closer to Him. I have also found that doing this helps me learn things about myself, that I would not have if I did not take a quiet moment to verbalize the feelings God already knew were there.
And no we do not hate anyone. Remember "love your enemies". Loving the things of the world refers to the values (such as money, status, power, lust ect..) that society constantly tells us will bring us happiness. I don't see why you think John did not want Christians to learn anything else. We are told to honor God with every gift he has given us..one of those gifts is the gift of intelligence and creativity. We must use all our gifts. We focus on Jesus and His word because we have come to realize that this is a "lamp on to my feet", He is the "light of the world", the only source of joy and contentment. As Christians we graduate College, select careers all in light of the word of God (use my gifts to help and minister others).
Much love to you!

accountability

Date: 2011-02-01 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aaron jones (from livejournal.com)
You confess to the all knowing as a form of healing and admission. Like is said above we tend to blame others. Loving the world is not the earth. It is idolatry. Possesions. Money, new cars, social status. All these things fade away. To be truley happy and content you search beyond this world to that wich is eternal and true. The word of God.

Re: accountability

Date: 2011-02-02 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myung lee (from livejournal.com)
I am a born again Christian who until 3 years ago was an agnostic who denied Jesus and did not believe in organized religion as a necessary step to true happiness and a true righteous life.
I believed that depending on myself, friends, family and various sources of materials was all I needed to developing my moral standards and to simply make myself a better person. But one day, I found myself in a room with someone I didn't like and ended up hurting their feelings purposely to get them to leave. This is when I realized of how weak I was and started to look for God for a better guide in life.

Anyways, I know the happiness you are talking about. I was truly happy just being with my best friends. I was content with my life and I surely didn't need any religion to make me feel better.

I think if you truly experience the holy spirit and the euphoria you get from feeling God, you will know this happiness we are talking about. I've cried and shouted for the love of God during prayers and singing hymns and amazingly, this happiness is far greater and more constant than a night of ecstasy. I am not proud of my past actions but I thought that night was the happiest day of my life.

I command you for reading the bible but I will pray for you so you can understand with your heart what the bible means and what it's like to have God by your side wherever you go.

I hope my rambling makes sense and I will be looking forward to where this journey of yours takes you. God bless!

Some comments

Date: 2011-02-02 02:08 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"Ok, so if you confess your sins Jesus forgives you. It doesn't say who you should confess them to, and surely if Jesus is all we've been told then he already knows you sinned, so why does he want to know exactly what you did again?"

This passage has been somewhat misunderstood, I think, in the Christian church. I know a lot of Christians interpret this to mean something like, "When we sin, we need to confess that sin to God, in order for Him to forgive us." With that logic, if we forget to confess a sin, then it isn't technically forgiven, right?

Well, keep in mind that 1 John was written to a mixed group of people, including "gnostics" (you can google more info on what a gnostic is, it will make 1 John clearer, esp. the first chapter). Anyway, I understand it this way, I John 1:9 tells us that when an unbeliever (I don't like the term "sinner" in the sense it is sometimes used today. Sinning doesn't make a person a sinner, just as doing good-works doesn't make a person a Christian. We are born sinners by our nature.), anyway, back to my sentence, I John 1:9 tells us that when an unbeliever comes to Christ, and acknowledges he is a sinner in need of a Savior (understands he cannot save himself by his own good works), Jesus cleanses that person from all his unrighteousness, and clothes him in the righteousness of Christ Himself, completely freely.

If you read I John 1:7 right before that, it may seem to contradict. But, try reading it this way, that, as a Christian who has accepted Christ (who is the Light, referenced throughout the Bible), that person is continually (the Greek word here denoting present continuing action. Check it out for yourself in Greek, if you wish) cleansed, from ALL sin. If a Christian sins, he can be confident and assured in knowing that God has forgiven all his sins, PAST, PRESENT, and FUTURE, and receive the grace of God, enabling that person to move forward in life. This thought is confirmed in such passages, as Colossians 2:13 and Hebrews 8:12 which says, "And I (God) will forgive their wickedness, and I will never again remember their sins."


Re:
"Hating your fellow Christian means you're still in the dark, I guess it's OK to hate the non-Christians though? Answered my own question there, loving the world or things in it means you don't have God's love, I don't understand why God hates the world he apparently made."

Regarding loving the world, this does NOT mean hating the world itself (planet earth), nor does it mean hating the people of this world (Jesus told His followers NUMEROUS times to love people, not only other Christians. Look at the life of Jesus himself; He took to the streets to preach the Gospel to tax collectors, social outcasts, and other people), anyway, what Paul is getting at here is, well, I think an article I googled can explain this better than I:

"To love the world is to still be seeking for our life and identity in it, to still believe that there is something out there that is going to give us our meaning, purpose, identity, life. Obviously, John is not speaking here of enjoying the earth and the beauty of God's creation. He is not speaking against music and art that can be enjoyed and reflected upon. And, he has already told us that to love God is to love our brothers and sisters.

He says in verse 16 that what is in the world that he is warning his readers about is "the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life." Lust is a desire for possession and control of some object, person, or circumstance. Why does one lust? Because he/she is not trusting that whole, rich life is only found in God. Because he/she is not satisfied, is restless and looking for fulfillment of these lusts to make that insatiable longing be satisfied. A lustful person is not convinced that what God is giving is truly enough."

http://www.trinitystudycenter.com/1john/1john_2-15-17.php

I hope this sheds some light on your study of the Bible. :)

Your thoughts on the bible

Date: 2011-02-02 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm using the bible app on android and ran across your notes. While looking through some of your entries, I felt the compulsion to leave you a note of my own.

First, I want to commend you for reading the Bible and sticking with it. But I do have some questions. Why are you reading the bible? As stated above, I think it's very good thing, I'm just curious about your personal motivations.

Also, why are you leaving notes on the app? Once again, I'm just curious in regard to your reasons. My hope is that you wanted to start a discussion.

Please forgive me if you have been asked these questions before, as I said, I'm merely curious.

Thanks,
Jon

P.S. Kindly forgive any grammatical errors, I typed this all on my phone.

Date: 2011-02-04 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think it's very good that you're reading the bible. I became a christian about a year ago and have discovered some amazing things. I notice, however, that you seem to be coming toward the bible from a biased standpoint. In order to learn from any book, one must be open to accepting that it might be possible to be true. For instance, I am learning nothing from my economics class because the teacher assumes that my goal in life is to make money and I am strongly against the teachings of materialism.
I recomend that you read C. S. Lewis's book, Mere Christianity. If you actually want to know what Christianity is, this book basically explains it. It is no substitute for the bible, but It is helpful.
--God Bless--

P.S. There is a difference between happiness and joy. Happiness is when a child opens a gift on christmas morning the parents find that toy in the closet some time later unused. The toy brought happiness for a short amount of time, but could not satisfy. (next year the child wants a bigger better one and the cycle continues leaving him unquenched) Joy is something unending, and understandably, is very difficult to explain to someone who doesn't understand it. Joy is when a slave, after years of servitude to a cruel master is freed and never forgets the new found freedom. In fact, that is what this is about.

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