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Mx Wolfie (they/them) ([personal profile] wolfpurplemoon) wrote in [community profile] wolfbiblemoon2010-07-10 09:06 pm
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Job 5-7

Job is now a very broken man, despite his friends continuing to praise God in his presence.

Job says that no man shall come up from his grave once buried there, which to me means that there is no afterlife.

[identity profile] jaronsjournal.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus spared a prostitute from stoning, telling to her to go and sin no more. He didn't stone her, but he did call her former lifestyle "sin." We don't stone promiscuous women today either, nor should we. We do, however tell the truth about the wrongness of the sin.

All these potential problems that you speak of, should you get pregnant, are proof that Bible is correct in forbidding premarital sex. I would suggest you don't have sex until you are married and can deal with the consequences of sex.

But, I don't believe you'd be in as dire straits as you say. If you got pregnant, you could find help in raising and caring for the baby if you really wanted. There are Christians everywhere who would be delighted to help someone like you out in such a situation. The government would even probably give you money. There is no excuse for abortion in this type of situation.

Second, this coat hanger thing is a nice scare tactic people like to use. But even using a coat hanger would be wrong choice. And whatever deaths that happened from a stupid coat hanger abortion would never be equal to the thousands that die every day by legalized abortion.

[identity profile] jaronsjournal.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
The Bible does indicate that life begins before birth. It talks about how the baby John humped for joy in the womb when he heard Mary arriving to visit Elizabeth. There are other passages. But even scientists will tell you the fetus is indeed alive.

[identity profile] voodooskeleton.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Again you have to respond to MY comments in order for me to notice them right away. I'm not going to go back in the thread each time to see what other complete shit you've spewed forth from your fingertips.
I'm going to assume you meant 'jumped' for joy, even though 'humped' for joy is deliciously hilarious. First off, you'd have to really grasp at straws to believe the bible, the same book that says the moon emits its own light, is an accurate depiction of how things work. Regardless, if this is the only part in the bible that suggest life begins before birth, it doesn't really make the case to be so avidly against abortion because of your religion.
First of all, where life begins is merely an opinion, not scientific fact. There are probably even more pro-choice scientists than there are pro-life scientists, because they realize that not every human is a special and unique snowflake, and they don't believe god wills it. Secodly, the zygote or fetus or whatever you choose to call it is completely dependent on the mother. If the mother dies, the chances of a fetus surviving, especially in the early stages, is slim to none. Same goes for if the fetus is taken out of the mother prematurely. This really doesn't sound like the fetus has its own life.

[identity profile] jaronsjournal.livejournal.com 2010-07-15 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
A 2 year old cannot live long without help from its mother or some other human. Would you say the 2 year old is not alive?

The unborn baby kicks in the womb, of its own choice and power. How can you say its not alive?

[identity profile] voodooskeleton.livejournal.com 2010-07-15 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
anybody else could raise a two year old. a fetus on the other hand cannot leave the mother's insides and still survive (except for the rare occasion). you really are slow.

[identity profile] voodooskeleton.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
So out of that whole three part rant, the only thing you can come back with is 'homosexuality is a sin and abortion is wrong'? Are you slow?
Regardless of what Jesus did with the prostitute, the bible is still very clear on what should be done with adulterous women. The bible is not at all clear about abortion.
My boyfriend and I are not married because we choose not to be married. Getting married isn't going to magically fix our financial problems, if anything it would make it worse, and it most certainly is not going to cure my health problems.
Even if my financial problems were magically fixed, pregnancy. could. still. kill. me. because. of. my. health. problems. you. ignornant. fuck.
And these christians that would be willing to help me? Are these the same christians who completely wrote me off because of my disbelief in your magical invisible sky daddy?
"And whatever deaths that happened from a stupid coat hanger abortion would never be equal to the thousands that die every day by legalized abortion." And you are a completely twisted individual for thinking this is an okay thing to say.
Would you care to respond to the rest of my rant that I took so much time to construct or you, regardless of whether abortion is right or wrong?