Revelation 20-22
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The technicalities of heaven's legal system are such that they can only chain up Satan for one thousand years and then have to let him go to have another attempt at deceiving the world before apparently being defeated one final time.
Also, if your name isn't on the list then it's into the lake of fire with you. Sounds like the most extreme celeb party ever.
I do wonder why anyone would want to worship this God who uses humans as pawns in his celestial feud with Satan, condemning any who are deceived by Satan and only letting those into heaven who were already destined to go. Seems that if there was even a slim chance of his existence then I'd choose not to worship him.
Once all this stuff has happened there will be no more death, pain or crying, at least for the special chosen ones. All the people who didn't get chosen, or sinned will have all the suffering. But if you cowardly pick the mindless worship in fear of the lake of fire, I don't think that helps you because one of the detestable people who'll be going there are cowards.
A shiny new Jerusalem will appear, all shaped and measured according to various factors of 12, and decorated with expensive gems, with fruit trees in season all the time.
There will be no more night, God's light will shine down on them forever. How do you get any sleep?
More circular logic, this is all true because the angel within the story said it was all true. He also said that the time of this prophecy coming true was near, so truth is probably relative.
I think that's it, that's the end. I'm thinking about writing some sort of final conclusion post soon, but for now, that's all folks, thanks for following me through this long year!
Also, if your name isn't on the list then it's into the lake of fire with you. Sounds like the most extreme celeb party ever.
I do wonder why anyone would want to worship this God who uses humans as pawns in his celestial feud with Satan, condemning any who are deceived by Satan and only letting those into heaven who were already destined to go. Seems that if there was even a slim chance of his existence then I'd choose not to worship him.
Once all this stuff has happened there will be no more death, pain or crying, at least for the special chosen ones. All the people who didn't get chosen, or sinned will have all the suffering. But if you cowardly pick the mindless worship in fear of the lake of fire, I don't think that helps you because one of the detestable people who'll be going there are cowards.
A shiny new Jerusalem will appear, all shaped and measured according to various factors of 12, and decorated with expensive gems, with fruit trees in season all the time.
There will be no more night, God's light will shine down on them forever. How do you get any sleep?
More circular logic, this is all true because the angel within the story said it was all true. He also said that the time of this prophecy coming true was near, so truth is probably relative.
I think that's it, that's the end. I'm thinking about writing some sort of final conclusion post soon, but for now, that's all folks, thanks for following me through this long year!
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Date: 2011-02-07 11:34 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-02-11 06:47 pm (UTC)Congratulations
Date: 2011-02-08 12:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-08 09:19 am (UTC)luckily all the hell broke lose with internet, and guess who, hell is not real, bible is not real, and best of all, god is not real.
hallelujah,,,,,
don't think you want to prove or disprove the authenticity of the bible since many have attempted to do them and they will never be meeting of minds.
have a life, live a godless and moral life...
cheers
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Date: 2011-02-09 10:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-09 05:58 pm (UTC)When are you going to start on the Qur'an? (ducking and running).
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Date: 2011-02-09 10:43 pm (UTC)I dread to think what sort of interest my blog would get if I tried the same thing with the Qur'an!
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Date: 2011-02-09 10:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-09 10:48 pm (UTC)I guess as there is no way that our conscious minds can live separate from our bodies, as our mind and thoughts are in the electric connections between the neurons in our brains, it seems to me that no matter how much you want to believe you will survive your death it's just not possible. So while you think you are being selfless by sharing your path to salvation, it seems sort of pointless. Better to make the one life we have as meaningful and enjoyable as possible.
Something else to think about...
Date: 2011-02-20 11:59 pm (UTC)http://ow.ly/402rB
Good job
Date: 2011-02-12 11:27 pm (UTC)I grew up Christian but questioned it at an early age so I did what you did I read the bible from front to back and the Quran as well as many other books. These books are based on faith which defies logic it's the only way it can work it makes sure you can't ask any questions just believe as we say mentality.
I am now an athiest and will never be controlled again.
Wow!
Date: 2011-02-15 10:29 pm (UTC)The only problem you have: what if it was God's word?
I remember when I became a Christian (or how do you call them? in German it's becoming a Fischli) (six years ago): From one week to another I "knew" that the bible is God's word and started reading, afraid that I would find passages like "kill everybody who's not attending church".
Fortunately, there are none of this kind (but still some difficult lines). But it's not the same (as you can imagine) to read the bible, if you really believe, that it's true. As far as I remember it's COMPLETELY different. And soon you're addicted.
best wishes.
Congrats
Date: 2011-03-01 04:02 pm (UTC)What changed for me was one day realizing that despite all the objectionable things I found in the Bible, there were many good things as well. Further, that there is a wisdom behind certain parts/passages that I began to doubt could have come from man.
Two weeks after having that thought, I came to understand, from my heart, what repentance really meant and I became a Christian. It was not an act of reason and to say it was from the heart is not really accurate either, for it was not an entirely emotional decision either. But I was led.
Since then, I read through the entire Bible and was amazed at how much I misunderstood. As 1 Cor 2:14 conveys, the Bible has a whole different meaning to those who have received God's spirit. Not that I understand it all now, far from it. In one sense, I have more questions now than I did before. I have not stopped being a skeptic and I have some issues with some of the mainstream Christian doctrines.
And I am certainly not saying that believers are 'better people' than non-believers. I know many non-believers who are great people by human standards. But the difference between believers and non-believers is the spirit that comes when you believe in Jesus and 'repent' (I struggle to use that word as its meaning has been so hi-jacked by modern culture). The spirit is not about words, but about power. How many drug addicts, adulterers, murderers, etc... have turned their life around when they became believers? How many people have died horrendous deaths rather than renounce their faith? Do you seriously think all of them did so because of their own power?
For me personally, I had a lust affair with porn. While I rationalized that I wasn't hurting anyone, it was not something I shared with anyone as I was not 'proud' of it. The few times I made an attempt to stop never lasted long. I always caved. But with the power of God's spirit, I have been porn free since becoming a believer. And who had I hurt? The intimacy I now share with my wife is incredible compared to my prior self. I'm like an 18 year old again.
For what its worth, that is my testimony. I pray that what happened to me will happen to you. I wish it for everyone.
Love and Joy
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Date: 2011-03-02 07:21 pm (UTC)2. You can very easily be critical of anything, there are always junk thoughts one can pull out of their imagination to criticize even 1+1=2. Again, not a mark of any intelligent discourse whatsoever.
3. You are a self described atheist, so understanding that, etiquette scholarly research dictates you should put yourself into the shoes of a believer in order to understand the Bible. I could go to Japan, a country from which I have no cultural roots, and tear apart their culture as stupid and lacking judgement. If I did, however, the world would be sickened by my lack of reasonableness and shallowness of character. You have done the same thing, not a mark of character or of any semblance of someone genuinely trying to learn, only a person so conceited, derogatory, and cynical that they can only see life through their own lenses.
4. If you really are interested in learning rather than destruction, you will find God most definitely. But then again, the billions who have found Him are all miserably misled, right?
Here is some common sense, if the book doesn't make sense, go to the author. Ask the author if you can meet Him and what it would take for that to happen. He will most surely take the time to meet with you and thoroughly discuss all your questions, and on top of it, you will leave a better man for being in His presence which changes the heart of all who are open.
Re: Interesting
Date: 2011-03-12 09:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-03-12 09:17 pm (UTC)Maybe ask?
Date: 2011-05-22 04:57 am (UTC)Can I offer an alternative to your approach of the bible? It is as you know not an easy book to read, why not take resources from experts. People who dedicate their lives to finding out what the bible is actually about. Not necessarily Christians, but I dare venture that Christians know their bible best!
I am sure that you would do the same with any other subject. I am not an electrician, if I venture to learn about electricity on my own, my conclusion would probably be that electricity is dangerous! And miss out on the wonderful things about it :)
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Date: 2011-08-08 03:04 am (UTC)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqKqRHNVYb0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irhWHG6bsXE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
While you're at it please visit:
www.Spiritlessons.com
May the Lord open your eyes to the truth!
Answer me this...
Date: 2011-08-20 12:34 pm (UTC)