Luke 12-13

[wolfpurplemoon]

So, you shouldn't fear someone who can 'merely' kill your body, because after that they can't do anything more to hurt you (that part's true). But you should fear the one with the power to throw you in to hell, after your death. As I've said before, no part of our concious mind can survive the death of our body, so it really is pointless to promise heaven or threaten hell to make people follow your religion.

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Re: Truth

[(Anonymous)]

Again, you're arguing between truth and belief. I believe that God's word is truth, you don't, and neither of us will find out 100% sure until we die. That is not to say that absolute truth does not exist. Yes science is changing, however, even scientists would say there were some truths. In science they are called laws, such as the law of gravity and the 1st and 2nd law of Thermodynamics. By calling them a law, science says that they are always true and cannot be violated.

And it is not truth by conformity. If you read the definition it says that truth conforms to actuality or reality. That means that a truth must be actualor real. The people who cannot see the color believe that it doesn't exist. However, that doesn't change the truth that it does. Just because the people could suddenly see the color doesn't make it a truth by actuality. It was always true. We conform to what we believe is true, but truth never conforms to us.

Re: Truth

[liedownlovely.livejournal.com]

The people who cannot see the color believe that it doesn't exist. However, that doesn't change the truth that it does.

I don't believe god exists. He cannot be proven to be absolute truth, nor can his moral standards for human behavior. He is not gravity or thermodynamics; he does not control or manipulate anything around me, despite what Christians say. And until he is proven to be true, god is not real except to those who choose to believe that he is truth. Why push others to conform to a truth that is not a law of the universe, but a belief? Why make him out to be a fact of actuality when he is a fact of conformity? I really don't mind people believing whatever they wish, it's when they start trying to control institutions of government or wage wars against innocent people who don't believe equally that it grinds my gears. Conform to what you want. But don't start messing with actuality.

Here's (http://www.exitmundi.nl/bible/) a good site that lists (most) of its scientific sources and is an easy read about the bible and why it's a farce. Perhaps it'll give you some perspective on where I'm coming from.

Re: Truth

[(Anonymous)]

Please don't misunderstand where I'm coming from. I'm not trying to force you to believe in God. No one can force belief on anyone else. The arguments I was stating had nothing to do with God or His truth. I was merely disagreeing with your statement that there is no absolute truth. Again, as I stated earlier, none of us will know the truth about God 100% until we die, but one way or another, one of our beliefs will be the truth, or possibly someone else's. But I really was not thinking about God or His standards when I posted my comments. I fully agree that this is my belief and that it cannot be scientifically proven. I was merely debating your wording and how you defined truth.

And I don't believe in judging those who don't believe what I do, nor do I believe that I can force them to behave the way I think a Christian should act. The only people I feel I should judge are those who say they believe what I believe and then act differently. That is, those who claim to be Christian and then go out and do something that is clearly not.(i.e. child molesting priests, adulterous pastors, abortion clinic bombers, etc.)

Marci

Re: Truth

[liedownlovely.livejournal.com]

And I don't believe in judging those who don't believe what I do, nor do I believe that I can force them to behave the way I think a Christian should act. The only people I feel I should judge are those who say they believe what I believe and then act differently. That is, those who claim to be Christian and then go out and do something that is clearly not.(i.e. child molesting priests, adulterous pastors, abortion clinic bombers, etc.)

And you have my respect for that. Thank you.